Original最初的 by Shichao, 2026-10-25 00:00, Zhejiang
@@原创 世超 2026-10-25 00:00 浙江

一局23万的对赌

A single game with a bet of 230,000—has the art circle really become this competitive竞争激烈?一局赌注 23 万,绘画圈已经卷成这样了?
The term "betting on a deal交易" originally最初 came from the capital资本 circle.对赌这个词,本来是资本圈的玩意儿。
For example, if a company wants to go public or seek financing融资, it signs签署 an agreement with investors投资者. If the IPO succeeds, everyone is happy. If it fails, the company compensates赔偿 financially经济上 or transfers转让 shares.比如公司要上市、要融资,跟投资人签个协议。上市成功,那皆大欢喜。上市失败,就赔钱、让股份。
But now, this method has become the painting community's last dance against AI.但现在,这个方法成了绘画圈对抗 AI 的最后一舞。
Many ordinary people and artists spontaneously自发地 engage参与 in betting PK battles对战, with some stakes reaching as high as 230,000 yuan in a single round. If one loses the bet, the individual个人 not only has to pay up but also faces the risk of ruining毁掉 their reputation名声.很多民间群众自发和画师举行对赌 PK,一局甚至喊出 23 万的天价。一旦对赌失败,当事人不仅要赔钱,还面临身败名裂。
It's basically a life-and-death生死攸关 "do-or-die生死一搏 situation局面."基本上就是你死我活的“ 生死局 ”。

You might be quite puzzled困惑—what什么 exactly is this AI bet wagering下注 on?你可能很费解,这 AI 对赌到底是在赌什么?
Simply put, it's a bet on whether the artist used AI or not.简单来说,就是赌画师用没用 AI。
As large models become increasingly powerful, many new artists with extraordinary非凡 painting skills, or young painters whose skills have advanced by leaps and bounds界限, have emerged涌现 in this industry.随着大模型越来越牛,这个行业冒出了很多画技超神的新画师,或者是技术突飞猛进的小画家。
As a result, when people see a painting that is slightly稍微 better done, they immediately think it has an AI flavor味道.导致大家看到画得稍微好点的画,就觉得有 AI 味。

But it's also upsetting for the artist to be questioned被质疑 without any reason理由.但画师平白无故被人质疑也很不爽。
So, roughly starting开始 from last year, both sides putting up money for a bet and engaging进行 in PK duels became成为 the norm常态 in the illustration community圈子. And it continuously evolved演变, optimizing优化 into a very mature成熟 and quite professional专业的 process流程.于是,大概从去年开始,双方压钱对赌 PK 成了绘圈的常态。并不断地进化,优化出了一套非常成熟、相当专业的流程。
Generally, a betting game requires four parties: the artist, the appraiser鉴定师, an intermediary中间人, and a jury评审团 composed组成 of several voting reviewers.一般对赌需要四方,画师、鉴方、一名中间人,以及数名投票的评审团组成。
The bet amount is decided by both participants参与者, generally around 500 to 2000 yuan, and each party places an equal stake with an intermediary中间人.对赌金额由参与双方敲定,一般在 500-2000 块左右,双方各自将等额的赌注放在中间人处。
Then the artist started开始 a live stream直播 to draw, and the drawing subject题目 was given给定的 on the spot现场 by the appraiser鉴定师.然后画师开直播画画,绘画的考题由鉴方当场给出。

The artist must complete the test questions题目 through通过 a live broadcast within the specified规定 time.画师要在规定时间内,直播完成考题。
At the same time, provide live streaming直播 from multiple多个 perspectives视角, especially hand-visible手部可见 live streaming直播. It must not be interrupted中断 midway中途, to prevent secretly using AI to generate生成 images.同时,给出多视角的直播,尤其是要露手直播。并中途不可中断,以免偷偷用 AI 跑图。

After the live drawing session场次 concludes结束, the selected panel评审组 of judges will vote based on the live drawings. The side with the most votes wins and can能够 claim拿走 all the money in the prize pool.直播绘图结束后,由筛选后的评审团根据直播图给出投票结果。得票者多的一方获胜,可以得到奖池里的所有金额。
The jury评审团 is generally composed组成 of artists who have passed the review of leading illustration commission委托 platforms平台 and have a stable稳定的 order volume订单量 above a certain amount.评审团一般都是通过头部绘画接稿平台审核的画师,且稳定接单金额在一定数额以上。

That's pretty much the process流程—survival存亡 is decided through通过 Lushou's live streaming直播 and a professional专业的 judging panel评审组.差不多就是这样一个流程,通过露手的实时直播,和专业评审团来定生死。
Since this method matured成熟 and took shape, the number数量 of times AI has caught抓住 people in gambling赌博 has been increasing month by month, with over超过 forty cases handled处理 in the past three months.自从这套方法成熟定型后,AI 对赌抓人的次数就在逐月递增,过去三个月办了四十多场。
Every month, it can能够 identify认出,识别 over超过 a dozen AI artists, including many popular painters with tens of thousands of followers粉丝 who offer提供 teaching courses, some of whom charge收费 up to ten thousand yuan per commissioned委托 piece.每个月它能抓出十几个 AI 小画家,里头不乏很多在开教学课程的万粉画手,有的约稿价格达到了上万一张。

Seeing this, don't you find it quite amazing?看到这,你是不是觉得很神奇。
To be honest, when it comes to the AI invasion入侵, Shichao has basically given给定的 up and accepted defeat击败. Nowadays, almost every industry uses AI. In fact, if you don't know how to use AI, many companies won't even甚至 hire you...说实话,对于 AI 入侵,世超基本已经躺平认栽了。现在各行各业基本都用 AI。甚至你不会用 AI,很多公司压根不招你。。。
As a result, in the painting community圈子, to resist抵抗 AI, there have even甚至 been spontaneous自发的 situations情况 where people pool money for bets, fighting each other to the bitter苦涩 end结束?结果绘画圈这边,为了抵制 AI,居然出现了民间自发砸钱对赌拼个你死我活的情况?
Moreover此外, once this kind of bet begins, it mostly ends结局 with the other party apologizing道歉 and deleting their account说明…的原因 to leave the internet before it's over超过.而且这种对赌一旦开始,最后大多会闹到另一方道歉,并销号退网才罢休。
Jian Fang doesn't necessarily have a deep grudge勉强做 against the artist either; sometimes they're just passersby路人 who happen to come across a post. Feeling摸起来 that the artist's work has a bit of an AI flavor味道, both sides start开始 throwing thousands of yuan at each other in a fight.鉴方也并非和画师有深仇大恨,有时候就只是偶然刷到帖子的路人。觉得这个画师的画有点 AI 味,双方就开始砸几千块钱对打。

Then why insist坚持 on tearing each other apart so ugly? If AI was really used, why would the artist be willing to spend money to participate参与 in the bet?那为啥非要撕得这么难看?如果真的用了 AI,画师又为什么愿意花钱参与对赌呢?
First of all, the drawing community圈子 has always explicitly明晰的 prohibited禁止, 不准 the use of AI. Once someone is found using AI, the artist is basically given给定的 a death sentence, and their reputation名声 is ruined毁坏.首先,绘圈一直都是明令禁止用 AI 的。一旦被发现用AI,画师基本就判为死罪,身败名裂。
If you go to an artist's comment section部分 and claim拿走 they used AI, they might just explode: "You say I used AI? You'd better be ready乐意的,愿意的 to back that up—want to bet on it?"你要是跑到画师评论区,说他用了 AI。对方很可能就会暴起:“ 你说我用 AI?你说了就得负责,那赌不赌?”

In the eyes of the art community圈子, AI is seen as plagiarism抄袭 and infringement侵权, and the content满意的 it produces is merely仅仅 stitched-together拼凑的 corpse死尸, 尸体 pieces.在绘圈看来,AI 就是抄袭和侵权,产出的内容也只是拼接的尸块。
"The essence本质,本体 of AI is infringement侵权," "AI painting is devouring吞食 artists, a very useful plagiarism抄袭 tool that is not illegal不合法的, 非法的."“ AI 的本质就是侵权 ”、“ AI 绘画就是吃画师,一款非常好用的不违法的抄袭工具 ”。

Moreover此外, it's not just a matter事情 of integrity正直, but also involves使卷入, 牵涉 money.而且,也不只是操守问题,还涉及到了钱的事。
In the art community圈子, there is a commission委托 culture文化, 文明. That is, buyers买主, 顾客 give artists their requirements, and the artists create the artwork艺术品,美术品. For example, commissioning委托,委任 a hand-drawn手绘 close-up portrait of a super handsome guy with a 24k pure hotpot theme题目.在绘圈,有一套约稿文化。也就是买家给画师们下需求,画师来出图。比如约个什么火锅 24k 纯帅手绘大头照。
Many people use AI to take shortcuts近路, essentially必须的 aiming to sell their manuscripts手稿 for higher prices or to improve efficiency效率 and sell more manuscripts手稿.不少人之所以用 AI 走捷径,本质是想卖出更高的稿费。或者是提高效率,卖更多稿件。
Selling pre-made预制的 dishes at the price of freshly新颖的,新奇的 cooked meals by a chef.用预制菜去卖大厨现炒的价格。

More importantly, AI is developing使(底片)显影 so fast now that without a bet, people really can't tell the difference.更重要的是,现在 AI 发展速度太快了,不用对赌大家真的分辨不了。
In the early(稻麦等的)穗 days, it might still have been possible to catch them out through通过 low-level mistakes like drawing the wrong number数量 of fingers.早年可能还能通过画错的手指之类的低级错误去抓包。
But now, AI not only draws better and better, but can能够 also fake假的 the process流程. For example, the seemingly表面上,外表上 legitimate合情合理的 drawing process流程 below is actually purely AI-generated.但现在,AI 不仅画得越来越好,还能伪造过程。就比如说,下面这种看着像模像样的绘画过程,其实是纯 AI 生成。

Even甚至 more, a fake假的 painting process流程 in drawing software软件 can能够 be generated生成的.甚至,还可以生成在绘图软件里的假绘画过程。
You make drafting草稿 and color selection选择 look quite professional专业的. In reality, the entire process流程 is completely generated生成的 by Minimax.你看起草稿、取色搞得像模像样的。实际上,整个过程完全由 Minimax 生成。

The emergence of these technologies has almost shattered粉碎,破碎 the trust between之间 artists and users...这些技术的出现,几乎已经粉碎了画师和用户之间的信任。。。
If having a picture and a process流程 cannot不能 serve as proof耐…的, 能防…的 n. 证, then the artist would have no choice入选者 adj. 优等的 but to cut open their own belly肚子, 腹部 to show exactly how many bowls of noodles are inside.如果有图有过程,都不能证明。那画师就只能把肚子剖开,看看里面到底有几碗粉。
At first glance看一下 n. 一瞥, it seems that AI gambling赌博 has indeed become a righteous正义的 judge. But upon closer更接近 scrutiny详细检查, 仔细观察, something feels感觉 off everywhere.乍一看,似乎 AI 对赌确实是成了正义判官。但仔细一琢磨,就会觉得哪哪都别扭。
This bet was unfair from the very beginning.这场对赌从一开始,就不公平。
The artist has to endure忍受 being watched and judged by thousands or even甚至 tens of thousands of people, participating参与 in continuous high-pressure live streams直播 that last for several hours; some complex由许多部分组成的,复合的 drawings may even甚至 take several days to complete.画师需要被几千乃至上万人围观审判,进行长达几个小时的连续高压直播,有些复杂的画甚至要花费几天时间。
Beyond在更远处, 再往后 prep the time cost, there are also financial财政的, 金融的 expenses花费, 消费, 费用. The manuscript手稿 that was originally最初 being worked on has to be put on hold, and office workers even甚至 have to take special leave to free up time.时间成本外,还有金钱支出,原本操作的稿件要停工,社畜还要专门请假腾时间。
Even甚至 knowing they are being taken advantage优点, 优势 of, the artist must respond回答, 答复 to the call. If you don't gamble赌博 v. 冒…的险, everyone will assume假定,认为 you have a guilty conscience.即便知道吃亏了,画师也必须应召。你不赌,大家就默认你心虚。
This is why some artists, even甚至 if they might have used AI, still have to host主持 betting streams直播. Because they originally最初 had only one path ahead of them...这就是为什么有的画师明明可能用了 AI,却依然得开对赌直播。因为他们面前本来也就只有一条路。。。

So if AI makes a bet, can能够 it really be accurate精确的?那么 AI 对赌了,就真的能抓得准吗?
As a complete layperson外行人, after watching a large number数量 of AI-detection cases, Shichao found that the method everyone uses to judge is to look at the difference in skill level between之间 livestream直播 drawings and past commissioned委托 works.作为纯外行,世超围观了大量的 AI 鉴定后,发现大家判定的方法就是看直播绘图和过往稿件的水平差异。
The simplest way方式 is to look at the level of human anatomy解剖. Anatomy解剖 is very hard(酒)烈性的 to master桅杆 quickly; it has to be built up one drawing at a time.最简单的,就是看人体水平。人体很难速成,就得一张张练出来。
Take the image below: the anatomy解剖 on the left is basically broken, with distorted歪曲 joints completely unlike the level on the right. This kind of thing can能够 raise提出,发起,发出 suspicion怀疑 that AI assistance协助 may have been used in the past.像下面这张图,左侧的人体基本就是崩坏,扭曲的关节和右侧完全不是一个水准。这种就可以怀疑,以往可能用了 AI 辅助。
The left is the livestream直播 image, and the right is a past commercial商业的 commission委托.左侧为直播图,右侧为过往商稿

Besides body物体 proportions, they also look at the smoothness平坦, 光滑 of linework线条, the precision精确性 of coloring, the handling把手 of light and shadow relationships, and so on. They also check检查 whether the artist's past quirks怪癖 can能够 be reproduced仿造 during the livestream直播.除了人体比例外,还有看勾线顺畅度、上色精准度、明暗关系处理等等。以及画师的过往手癖,在直播的时候能不能还原。
The top left is livestream直播 drawing, and the other three are past commercial商业的 commissions委托.左上为直播绘图,其他三张为过往商稿
The way方式 the hair highlights强调,突出,使显著 n. 最 are painted has suddenly changed, and there is also a big gap差距 in the fineness of the lines加衬里于.头发的高光画法突然变了,线条精细度也有很大差距

But these tricks骗局,诡计 are very effective有效的 against some novice生手, 新手 artists whose skill level varies变化 greatly.但这些招数,对一些水平差异很大的新手画师是很有效的。
If the artist already has a solid坚实的 drawing foundation基金会 and is merely仅仅 being lazy by using AI assistance协助, or has only run a few images occasionally偶尔的, 间或发生的, then the difficulty of catching the artist red-handed through通过 a livestream直播 will increase greatly.要是画师本身就有绘画功底,只是偷懒用了 AI 辅助,或者偶尔跑了几副。那么想要直播抓包画师露马脚的难度,会大大增加。
For example, in the case below, the left is the image under suspicion怀疑 and the right is the livestream直播 image. A layperson外行人 like Shichao feels感觉 the levels are about the same. More than 30% of the people on the detection检测 side also felt the artist did not use AI.比如下面这个,左侧为被鉴图,右侧为直播图。世超这种外行就觉得水平差不多。鉴方也有三成以上的人,觉得画师没有用 AI。
Only in the eyes of more professional专业的 artists can能够 problems such as rendering给予 area, hardness硬度 and softness温和,柔和 of brushwork, and decorative装饰的 angles be discovered.只有在更加专业的画师眼里,才能发现什么塑造面积、用笔软硬、装饰角度等问题。

Moreover此外, there are many kinds of AI assistance协助. Besides directly and crudely generating生成 an image, there is also generating生成 an image with AI and then manually手工的 revising or tracing追踪 it.而且,AI 辅助有很多种,除了直接粗暴地生成画面之外。还有 AI 生图后,再人工手改或者手描。
Even甚至 livestreams直播 can能够 use certain overlay software软件 and plugins to trace追踪 over超过 a base image.甚至直播也可以通过一些贴图软件和插件,做到垫图描图。
To put it even甚至 more conservatively保守估计, being able to reproduce复制 it in a livestream直播 does not mean AI was not used in past commercial商业的 commissions委托.再退一万步来说,直播能还原,也不代表过往商稿里面没有用过 AI。

Because detection检测 is so difficult难以满足的, people gradually began to create gods, hoping(人)单足跳 that some top artists could come out and settle安排, 安放 the matter事情 once and for all.因为鉴别难度大,人们慢慢地开始造神,寄希望于一些头部画师能出来一票定生死。
Last year, an artist named Mercury汞,水银 held a livestream直播 bet with hands shown, and most bystanders旁观者 stood by him as innocent. This led to the middleman中间人, 调解人 being cyberbullied网络欺凌 and withdrawing撤销,撤退 from the bet.去年有一个叫水星的画师开露手的直播对赌,大部分路人都站他是清白的。导致中间人被网暴,退出了对赌。
In the end结束, it was a well-known artist in the circle, Laolei, who came out to take a stand, and only then was it confirmed证实, 肯定 that the artist had traced追踪 an AI image.最后,是一个圈内知名的画师老累出来站队,才坐实画家是临摹了 AI 图。

Without a big name like that coming out to veto否决,否决权 it outright全部地, the comments under the post would definitely一定地, 明确地 be a chaotic混乱的, 无秩序的 mess弄脏,弄乱,搞糟 of arguing争论.如果没有这种大神出来一票否决,帖子下面一定都是吵作一团的。
As the arguing争论 goes on, people automatically自动地 split分裂,分化,派系 into factions派别,宗派,小集团 and start开始 attackingn&vt. 攻击, 进攻 each other. They criticize批评, 评论, 非难 both the artist and the detection检测 side. At that point, what什么 matters重要 is basically no longer drawing skill, but who is louder and who has more diehard followers粉丝.吵着吵着,人们自动分成几派,开始互殴。既喷画师,又喷鉴方。到这种时候,基本上看的就不是画技,而是谁的声音更大,谁的腿毛更多。
After one bet, everyone involved使卷入, 牵涉 is exhausted使筋疲力尽,用尽.一场对赌下来,消耗了参与的所有人。


So the bet is more like a crude stopgap method that everyone forces强迫 together with money and livestreams直播 after trust has collapsed坍塌,崩塌.所以对赌更像是信任崩塌之后,大家用钱和直播硬撑出来的土办法。
Even甚至 though this method so obviously invites cyberbullying, it is currently当前 the most feasible可行的 path. Without legal法律的 protection, everyone can能够 only hold on this way方式.就这样明显会引发网暴的方法,却是目前看来最可行的路子。在没有法律保护的情况下,大家只能这样硬撑。
Between之间 people, all that is left is one sentence: Do you dare敢 to bet?人和人之间,就剩下一句话:你敢不敢赌?
The more this happens, the more it proves that AI is constantly不断的 penetrating in, even甚至 to the point where it cannot不能 be stopped停止.越是这样,就越证明 AI 了正在不断渗透。甚至到了无法阻止的程度。
Just like Shichao's article here—you accused指控 me of writing it with AI and wanted to bet with me.就好像世超的这篇稿子,你喷我是 AI 写的,要和我打赌。
Of course I could livestream直播 typing it out word by word for everyone to see, but if it has come to this extent程度, what什么 exactly are we trying to prove?那我当然可以一个字一个字开直播码给大家看,但如果都闹到这个程度了,那我们到底在证明什么呢?
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